Lucy Pinder and Michelle Marsh banned from Harrier jets

The problem is the guy/guys who DON'T hold to it. ANd there's plenty of those. It seems like since that treaty, there's been an awful lot of genocide in places like Africa and the middle east. Has anyone thought to tell those folks that the Geneva Convention set down some rules for that sort of thing?

And there will ALWAYS be guys who will piss on treaties like that. And so- there will always be conflicts, and clashes of civilizations if you will.

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Sure, that's a terrible failing of the people who don't seek to uphold it.

But there's a massive difference between denigrating the values espoused in the Geneva Convention, and recognising that people do flout it.

It's analogous to laws against domestic laws against rape and sexual assault. Of course there are always going to be rapists, but it doesn't mean the laws aren't a good thing.
 
Sure, that's a terrible failing of the people who don't seek to uphold it.

But there's a massive difference between denigrating the values espoused in the Geneva Convention, and recognising that people do flout it.

It's analogous to laws against domestic laws against rape and sexual assault. Of course there are always going to be rapists, but it doesn't mean the laws aren't a good thing.

So then... what's your solution to the guys who don't abide by these treaties? It would seem you do not support a military response to them. What's the answer?
 
I was there at the time, This was my squadron up till march this year, i have some pics if anyone would like to see them.

The pic had to be painted of the jet because some big wig thought it was inappropriate!! we were all most unimpressed as she was a real sweety.


oh and Lucy Pinder had nothing to do with it , it was a pic of Michelle:)
 
So then... what's your solution to the guys who don't abide by these treaties? It would seem you do not support a military response to them. What's the answer?

Who said I didn't? Firstly, we have to get our own countries to respect international law. There's nothing worse than trying to sort out the rest of the world, when you haven't even looked to your own back yard. The treatment of those poor people in Guantanamo for all this time is a prime example.

But yes, political pressure against the Janjaweed, with an ultimatum with military intervention would be fine with me as long it was done in the right way. Of course, military intervention won't actually happen, since Britain and the U.S. tend to intervene when there's something else at stake for them -- Iraq, for example. When NATO does do something seemingly more benelovent, it's often for hidden reasons and executed horribly.

For example, Strobe Talbott came out and explicitly stated that the 1999 bombing of Serbia as a result of the breakup of ex-Yugoslavia, had nothing to do with the suffering of the Kosovar Albanians, but rather with Serbia's insubordination towards NATO. And how was it executed? With complete decimation of Serbia's essential infrastructure as a punishment for not carrying out the reforms NATO required of it.

I could go on and on. How about preventing the sales of our arms to these unstable groups and governments? East Timor cannot happen on the scale it does without Britain exporting weapons to Indonesia.

Anyway, this really is getting off-topic... I felt I had to respond to that vile comment earlier, and I've done that now.
 
What whats wrong with them pictures its just an outline of a them it not that there anything rude

Oh great work finding them cabey
 
Didn't find them they were took by my mates and me:) when were in afghan, it was this tour about mid feb that we were told to paint over it.

I also have a pic of me with my dodgy war moustache, would any one like to see that too??


I didn't think so LOL
 
Even in WWII famous bombers and airplane fighters were having pinups painted some famous one were Memphis Belle or Enola Gay. What it is wrong with a nice pinup with nice tits painted on the plane????? I don't get it.
 

McRocket

Banned
Having a female or likewise artwork on your combat plane is a tradition.

Tradition means absolutely nothing to me - any tradition.

If it is something that is necessary to be performed on a regular basis, then it will keep being performed - whether people call it a tradition or not.

I find traditions are usually something that people attach a label to when it is something that is not necessary to be performed or observed regularly, but just is because people like consistency. They like things to look forward to and depend on.
Then they become slaves (to various extents) to theses traditions. They feel that their lives are less rich or full without them. So they start to spend time and energy just to keep them going.

For what? For no other reason then it makes them feel better.

You want to feel better? Eat properly, workout regularly and donate your time and excess money to charity.

You will feel so good and be so busy that traditions will mean little or nothing to you.

Traditions are for the weak.

Not that I am not weak, I am, very. Just not about traditions.
 
Even in WWII famous bombers and airplane fighters were having pinups painted some famous one were Memphis Belle or Enola Gay. What it is wrong with a nice pinup with nice tits painted on the plane????? I don't get it.

The aircraft you mentioned are USAF aircraft, The RAF did the same to a smaller degree in WW2 but that was a time where every scrap of morale was vital and sadly the aircraft in them days didn't have a long life.

I don't agree with the decision, but it wasn't a MOD decision as a whole, in fact the picture was welcomed up to Wing Commander level, the fact is that when we have high ranking visits of both military and Political, it seems everything gets a new coat of paint and they often bring with them what we call the Morale Police.
 
Bit like the Queen then. She thinks everywhere smells of fresh paint. That's because there some bloke not to far in front of her painting the walls :1orglaugh

Which reminds me, props to Hellen Mirren for declining to have lunch with the Queen when invited. Anti-royalists FTW.
 

L3ggy

Special Operations FOX-HOUND
I command thee to put pin-up models back on the harriers.
 
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